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New from Blizzard about the Honor System:
"Now that
the Before the Storm content patch has been live for the past week,
we’ve had a better opportunity to track the rate at which players are
accumulating honor, and subsequently how easy it's been to obtain honor
rewards. In gauging these elements, we've determined that the effort
required to obtain honor rewards is more trivial than we had intended.
As a result, during today's maintenance we’ve applied a hotfix that
reduced the amount of honor gained by approximately 30%. This change
allows the honor rewards to be obtained at rate that better reflects the
item’s in-game value.
The reason that we decided to reduce the rate of honor gain rather than
simply raise the honor cost of each item, is to ensure that everyone’s
time and effort participating in PvP since the patch is not diminished.
As this change will only affect future honor accumulation. "
World of Warcraft Patch 2.0 Honor System Changes
Patch 2.0 introduced changes to the honor system. The following
selection of questions address those changes:
What is the new
player-versus-player (PvP) honor system?
Like the current PvP honor system, the new honor system provides a way
for players to participate in PvP combat and obtain rewards by defeating
their opponents. The key difference in the new honor system is how the
rewards are obtained. With the new honor system, you will obtain honor
points that can be accumulated and spent like currency on rewards such
as items, weapons, and armor.
Do I need to keep playing to
keep my honor points intact?
No, the honor points will accumulate like currency, similar to the gold
and silver you can obtain through killing monsters or completing quests,
and will not degrade or be lost over time. This allows you to
participate in PvP at your own pace, working toward the honor rewards,
which you can purchase as soon as you have enough honor points to do so.
There is no longer any ranking associated with the honor system, so you
no longer have to worry about maintaining a rank or standing under the
honor system. Players still interested in measuring their PvP ability
against fellow players will be able to participate in the Arena System,
which is a separate, new form of competitive PvP in The Burning Crusade.
Is there a limit to how many
honor points I can accumulate?
Yes, there is a limit to how many honor points a character can
accumulate, but it is currently set to be approximately twice as much as
the most expensive reward. If you max out your honor points, you'll need
to spend some before you can earn additional honor points.
The limit of course, is subject to change depending on what works best
for long-term game balance.
Are honor points the only
thing needed to purchase the rewards?
The battleground marks of honor currently awarded for participating in
Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, and Alterac Valley will also factor in to
the cost for many of the rewards. The amount of honor points and marks
of honor required will vary for each reward. However, for most items the
honor cost is the most significant part of the item's cost.
How are honor points earned?
Honor points are earned in a very similar manner to the honor rewarded
in the current honor system. The game tracks your participation in world
PvP as well as PvP within battlegrounds. As you kill enemies and assist
your allies against the enemy, you'll earn honor. You will be able to
track a rough estimate of your approximate amount of honor points
received, and the points will then be calculated and awarded each night.
“Gain Marks of Honor for the Specific Battle Ground of your choice while Ranking up your PvP Honor Points.”
Will the honor and
battleground reputation rewards available in the current system still be
available?
All of the same rewards are available in the new honor system, costing
both honor points and marks of honor from the appropriate battleground.
What will happen to my
current battleground reputations, honor, and rank?
A new title system will display your highest rank achieved under the old
honor system, but ranks will no longer play a part in the new honor
system. The battleground reputations will carry over to the new system,
and still be visible and increase through participation in the various
battlegrounds, but the current rewards are now only available through
the new honor system. However, you will be able to obtain a special
title if you obtain exalted reputation with each battleground faction.
This title may be displayed through the new title display system.
How will dishonorable kills
factor in to the new honor system?
Although this is subject to change, we are not currently planning to
have dishonorable kills play any role in the honor system. The NPCs
around the world will no longer be set as civilians, so killing them
will not impact your ability to obtain honor points.
Gaining Honor
What is the Honor System?
The Honor System allows players to gain Honor Points based on PvP kills
and battles that can be used to spend on special rewards. Players earn
Honor Points mainly through Battlegrounds and World Outdoor PvP. For
more competative battles, participate in the Arena System.
Can I earn honor if I am in
a group?
Yes. When grouped with other players, honor are divided equally amongst
the members of the party. Just like in groups for killing monsters,
players can gain bonus experience for killing players while in a group.
If the character levels of some group members are significantly higher
than others, the amount of honor gained by the lower level members will
be reduced, just like it is with monster experience.
What if I do less damage
than the rest of my group, say through healing, damage over time, or
area-of-effect spells? Do I still get the same amount of honor as my
group?
Yes. Players who are grouped in a party equally split the honor they
earn. The Priest who heals will receive an equal share of points as the
Warrior who is swinging away at the target.
What happens if we take out
a faction leader in a raid group? Who gets the honor?
Members of the raid group that taps the creature will share the honor
points equally. The points will be distributed the same way as
experience points. It should be noted, however, that strategic targets
are there to promote conflict and role-play between the Alliance and
Horde, so players will find that killing enemy leaders will not be a
disproportionately large source of honor.
If I am a raid leader, will I receive more honor
than other non-leader raid group members?
No. Honor is
divided equally among all raid-party members.
If I am on the other end of the battlefield as my
party or raid group, will I still get honor for any kills they make?
No. Earning honor falls within the normal rules of experience gain.
Players must be in the general area to receive the honor.
Will I get credit for
killing guards?
Based on player feedback we have decided to no longer award honorable
kills for killing NPCs that are not racial leaders. This will prevent
players from feeling as though they need to "grind" NPC kills for honor.
This change will also help the honorable kill totals mean more than they
otherwise would.
What happens if I am
fighting a player and that player runs away, then another player or
group finds the player and kills him or her? Do I get any honor having
damaged the player first?
No. If a player does not take damage for 1 minute since the last time
they were attacked in PvP, any damage done by the first player is null
and void. The next player or group who finds and kills the target gets
the credit.
Will there be additional
honor gained for rapid-fire killing? For instance, three honorable kills
in thirty seconds.
There are no current plans to reward players for going on killing
sprees, other than the normal honor they earn.
Will there be a survival
bonus?
For instance, each kill
beyond the first without dying equates to more honor.
This will not be a feature upon initial implementation of the Honor
System, but is a possible candidate for continued refinement.
WOW Honor Rewards
What incentives do I have
to gain Honor Points in the Honor System?
By killing other
players and racking up honor, players will gain access to new equipment
and weapons. Some of these weapons also require Battleground tokens.
Can I earn Honor Points in Arena Matches?
No. This is a
seperate system where players earn Arena Points that can be used on
special Arena weapons and equipment.
Honor Decay
Once I gain Honor Points, do I keep it
indefinitely, or do I have to keep earning it?
There is a limit to
how many honor points a character can accumulate, but it is currently
set to be approximately twice as much as the most expensive reward. If
you max out your honor points, you'll need to spend some before you can
earn additional honor points.
Warcraft Battlegrounds
How does the Honor System fit in with the
Battlegrounds?
In the Battlegrounds
players will be fighting primarily against other players which will net
honor points. There will also be other methods of earning honor in the
Battlegrounds besides player-vs-player battles. Battlegrounds are
instances geared towards promoting player-vs-player combat, so players
who complete objectives in Battlegrounds will receive honor.
Will killing players in the Battlegrounds
automatically result in me getting more honor than if I kill someone on
the other parts of the realm?
No. However players participating in Battlegrounds can earn honor in
other ways besides killing players.
Misc.
Will one class have an advantage over the others?
Some classes seem to be better equipped for gaining honor than others;
was that taken into consideration?
During our testing we did not come across any one class that had a
distinct advantage over the others. Each class has an equal chance of
gaining Honor Points depending on how it is played.
It seems that some realms have way more Alliance
than Horde members. How will this affect the Honor System ?
Contrary to popular belief, the numbers of Horde and Alliance are very
similar on player-vs-player realms.
How am I supposed to play the game when every
where I go someone is waiting to gank me? The graveyard is nice, but I
want to see the rest of the world too!
Players who chose to create characters on a PvP realm are supposed to
feel a sense of danger where ever they go, that is why we offer player-vs-player
realms!
What happened to the old ranks?
Ranks from the previous sytem are now purely cosmetic. They no longer
affect anything beyond the name above a character that has previously
earned them.
WOW PVP Honor points farming 101
By Bill Hutchens:
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 1: Play a “massively multiplayer” online game on your computer. The most popular these days is World of WarCraft, a role-playing game, or “MMORPG.” In WOW PVP Honor PVP Armor Set, hundreds of players can log in to the same server, or “realm,” for simultaneous adventuring. There are hundreds of WoW PVP realms all over the world, and more than 5 million people pay monthly subscriptions to play the game.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 2: Slay some enemies (also called “mobs”). When you do, you can loot their corpses for items you can later sell to a computer-controlled merchant. In WoW PVP Honor farming process, if you slay a bear, for instance, click on its corpse and you might see a column of icons representing teeth, fur, meat, claws, etc. Click the icons to add them to your inventory. Some enemies yield, or “drop,” weapons and armor as well as copper, silver or marks of honor.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 3: In WoW PVP Epic Armor Set and mount, players can carry as many as five backpacks, each with more than a dozen “slots,” or spots for loot icons. When your packs are full, head to a town or city and find a computer-controlled merchant.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 4: Click on the merchant and then click on your backpacks to open them. Click on the icons in your backpack to sell them to the vendor, who will give you coins.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 5: Slay, loot and sell about a million times.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 6: While you’re out slaying enemies, keep an eye out for rare items. These can be weapons, armor, trinkets or even crafting patterns that other players might want. You can tell how valuable an item is by looking at the color of its name. Green items are “uncommon,” blue items are “rare,” and purple items are “epic.” In most parts of the virtual world, epic items don’t drop very often.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 7: If you get some of these green, blue or purple drops, put them up for sale for gold on the in-game auction house. Sometimes epic items are sold for real money in online marketplaces such as eBay or dr-hu.com.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 8: When you have collected about 1,000 pieces of gold (that can take many days of nonstop killing, looting and selling), put it up for sale on eBay, dr-hu.com or some other online marketplace.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 9: Here’s how the sale goes on eBay, for example: Someone who plays in the same realm as you wants to buy your 1,000 pieces of gold. He has a winning bid of $75, and the cash moves from their credit card to your account. You arrange to meet him in the game and give him your WOW PVP Epic Mount. WOW PVP Honor also has an in-game mail system for sending notes, WOW gold and items to other players.
WOW PVP Honor Farming Step 10: Repeat this process 100,000 times. Or, as some have done, open a factory in China, and pay 100 people a few U.S. dollars per month to do it for you. GLOSSARY
Blizzard: The game development studio that makes World of WarCraft (WOW PVP Honor)
Bot: Short for “farmbot,” a playable game character programmed to automatically slay enemies and loot their corpses. Creating bots usually involves hacking, a practice most game companies do not endorse.
Drop: Noun: A single piece of loot. Verb: To appear, as sellable items do, in a loot window when a player clicks on the corpse of a slain enemy.
WOW PVP Honor
farmer: Or “farmer,” one who plays a MMORPG solely for the purpose of harvesting and selling loot, accumulating gold and then selling that virtual gold for real money in online marketplaces such as dr-hu.com.Loot: Noun: The items that drop from slain enemies. These can be common items such as pelts or cloth to more valuable items such as armor or weapons. Verb: To take dropped items.
Loot window: The window that pops up when a player clicks on a slain enemy. The loot window displays the items (as icons) that can be looted from an enemy’s corpse. Looted items are added to a player’s personal inventory.
MMOG: Massively multiplayer online game, a game played simultaneously by hundreds or thousands of players
MMORPG: Massively multiplayer online role-playing game, a MMOG that focuses more on fantasy role-playing and adventuring than, say, World War II shooting action or the re-creation of battles from ancient history.
Mobs: Computer controlled enemies. In WOW PVP Honor, mobs are a mix of common animals, fantasy creatures and monsters and human or humanoid foes.
Ninja: A player who, when grouped with other players, steals loot from the corpses of cooperatively slain enemies instead of waiting to divide it fairly.
Ninja Farmer: A player who, when grouped with other players, steals loot with the intent to sell it.
Thottbot: A Web site that categorizes and cross-references the loot dropped by WOW PVP Honor enemies. Thottbot also gives rough estimates (percentages) as to the chance that particular items might drop from particular mobs.
Vivendi Universal: The publisher of WOW PVP Honor
WOW PVP Honor: World of WarCraft, the current top MMORPG with more than 5 million players worldwide
HOW TO Gain World of Warcraft PVP Honor
What is the Honor System?
The Honor System allows players to gain rankings based on their PvP performance, with lucrative rewards for those who distinguish themselves on the field of battle! Read more about the PvP Honor System.
How do I gain rank in the Honor System?
Players advance in rank by helping to defeat players of the opposite faction (Horde/Alliance), or by vanquishing special target NPC's in the game, which ultimately confers honor.
The amount of damage a player deals to their target determines the amount of honor they earn. Contributing more damage yields more points, and less damage yields fewer points. Causing slight damage to multiple targets may not net as many points as causing severe damage to a single target. Also, the target must die and the kill must be honorable in order for honor points to be awarded.
What is an honorable kill?
An honorable kill occurs when a player takes part in the killing of an appropriate player or NPC in the player's level range. The color system for players works the same as it does for monsters. Grey level players will not yield an honorable kill.
Also, only specific NPC's will yield honorable kills. These are special target NPC's that are extremely difficult for players to attack, as they are some of the main leaders of each player faction. Defeating these NPC's will require a large force of players.
What is a 'Dishonorable kill'?
Any NPC that is marked with the green word 'Civilian' in its tooltip is considered a 'dishonorable kill'. The 'Civilian' marking will be applied to general NPC's such as vendors and quest NPCs as the level of the player begins to exceed the level of the NPC. This means that players of the appropriate level are allowed to kill general NPC's that are considered to present a fair fight.
Can I earn honor if I am in a group?
Yes. When grouped with other players, honor are divided equally amongst the members of the party. Just like in groups for killing monsters, players can gain bonus experience for killing players while in a group. If the character levels of some group members are significantly higher than others, the amount of honor gained by the lower level members will be reduced, just like it is with monster experience.
What if I do less damage than the rest of my group, say through healing, damage over time, or area-of-effect spells? Do I still get the same amount of honor as my group?
Yes. Players who are grouped in a party equally split the honor they earn. The Priest who heals will receive an equal share of points as the Warrior who is swinging away at the target.
What happens if we take out a faction leader in a raid group? Who gets the honor?
Members of the raid group that taps the creature will share the honor points equally. The points will be distributed the same way as experience points. It should be noted, however, that strategic targets are there to promote conflict and role-play between the Alliance and Horde, so players will find that killing enemy leaders will not be a disproportionately large source of honor.
If I am a raid leader, will I receive more honor than other non-leader raid group members?
No. Honor is divided equally among all raid-party members.
If I am on the other end of the battlefield as my party or raid group, will I still get honor for any kills they make?
No. Earning honor falls within the normal rules of experience gain. Players must be in the general area to receive the honor.
How many points do I need to get my next rank?
This is one area where the PvP and normal experience system differ. There is no set amount of honor needed to reach a certain level. The PvP ranking system is based on the number of players engaging in PvP combat, and how good each player is in relation to other players.
Think of the PvP rankings as a curve, where the highest ranks will encompass the top percentage of players. While there are a finite amount of players who can be in the top ranks, the actual number will depend on how many other characters on the server are involved in PvP. The more players competing, the more players will be able to reach the top ranks.
How many WOW Ratings needed for PVP Rank
60000 <= 14 Rank < 65000
55000 <= 13 Rank < 60000
50000 <= 12 Rank < 55000
45000 <= 11 Rank < 50000
40000 <= 10 Rank < 45000
35000 <= 9 Rank < 40000
30000 <= 8 Rank < 35000
25000 <= 7 Rank < 30000
20000 <= 6 Rank < 25000
15000 <= 5 Rank < 20000
10000 <= 4 Rank < 15000
5000 <= 3 Rank < 10000
0 <= Rank < 5000
How does my PvP Rank update?
PvP ranks are compiled once a week, and will coincide with the weekly server maintenance. There is a minimum number of honorable kills per week required for eligibility; this number is flexible and depends on the average number of honorable kills for your realm that week.
Based on the number of honor received per week and the amount of people involved in PvP combat, a rating value is assessed for each player. This value is used to determine progression through the PvP ranks.
Will I get credit for killing guards?
Based on player feedback we have decided to no longer award honorable kills for killing NPCs that are not racial leaders. This will prevent players from feeling as though they need to "grind" NPC kills for honor. This change will also help the honorable kill totals mean more than they otherwise would.
What happens if I am fighting a player and that player runs away, then another player or group finds the player and kills him or her? Do I get any honor having damaged the player first?
No. If a player does not take damage for 1 minute since the last time they were attacked in PvP, any damage done by the first player is null and void. The next player or group who finds and kills the target gets the credit.
Will there be additional honor gained for rapid-fire killing? For instance, three honorable kills in thirty seconds.
There are no current plans to reward players for going on killing sprees, other than the normal honor they earn.
Will there be a survival bonus? For instance, each kill beyond the first without dying equates to more honor.
This will not be a feature upon initial implementation of the Honor System, but is a possible candidate for continued refinement.
So far it seems like the Honor System is designed for players who can devote large amounts of time to the game. What if I am a casual player who cannot devote so much time?
Since the majority of players in WoW are casual gamers, the majority of player will be competing against players of a similar skill level and playtime. We expect many players to be surprised at how viable they will be in the Honor System.
Rewards
What incentives do I have to gain high ranks in the Honor System?
By killing other players and racking up honor, players will gain access to the Officer's barracks in Orgrimmar and Stormwind City. Each new rank players gain will open up new items, weapons, and armor for them to use. Along with the new items players will also have their current Honor Rank displayed for all to see. Here is a list of the ranks and rewards given per rank:
Rank Icon Alliance Title Horde Title Reward 14 Grand Marshal High Warlord Epic-quality weapon and shield 13 Field Marshal Warlord Epic-quality helm, shoulder armor, and gloves 12 Marshal General Epic-quality gloves, leggings, and boots 11 Commander Lieutenant General Commander's epic mount 10 Lieutenant Commander Champion Superior-quality helm and shoulder armor 9 Knight-Champion Centurion Battle standard 8 Knight-Captain Legionnare Superior-quality chest armor and leggings 7 Knight-Lieutenant Blood Guard Superior-quality boots and gloves 6 Knight Stone Guard Access to officer's barracks, officer's tabard, and potions 5 Sergeant Major First Sergeant Superior-quality bracers 4 Master Sergeant Senior Sergeant Superior-quality necklace 3 Sergeant Sergeant Superior-quality cloak, 10% discount on all goods and repairs from your faction's NPCs 2 Corporal Grunt Team insignia trinket 1 Private Scout Tabard
Will the rewards ever include new spells or talents for characters of higher ranks?
No. Currently we do not have any plans to reward players with new talents or spells.
Will my title be visible to those around me?
Yes. Players will be able to see other player titles as part of their names. In addition, players may view others' honor tabs through the inspect feature.
The previews on the website showed a few weapons and armor. Is that all we will be able to obtain?
No. The preview displayed just a few of the rewards. More rewards will be available in game.
Honor Decay
Once I gain Honor, do I keep it indefinitely, or do I have to keep earning it?
The Honor System is created so that players have to continue killing the enemy in order to keep their ranks. If a player does not fight or does not earn as many points from week to week, his or her standing will fluctuate. Over time Honor points will "decay". If a player goes down in ranks, any titles he has earned will be taken away until the rank is earned back.
What do you mean my Honor points will decay?
There is only a percentage correction between the current honor rating and the new rating. This is because honor points behave more like a rating system than a leveling system.
Does it always correct at the same rate, or do the player's rank/duration away affect it?
Rank changes as a percentage of the difference between a player's current honor rating and his or her current week's honor rating. However, in order to give players a cushion for "off weeks", the correction is substantially faster when a player is increasing their honor rating than it is going down.
Does it decay to zero, or is there some nominal rank it stops at?
Players would typically have to be inactive in PvP for a very long time (months) before they lose all rank.
Penalties
What sort of penalties are there for dishonorable behavior?
We have recently implemented the first steps toward a Dishonor system. Trivial civilian NPCs such as quest givers and vendors give Dishonorable Kills to players who kill them, or who are part of a party that kills them.
Are there any places where we can fight that will cause a negative honor gain if you kill the opposing faction? An example would be an Argent Dawn camp?
Not at this time. However, there will be times at which players will be worth no honor. For example, when a player loads into the world by crossing an instance line or logging in, or immediately after landing from a flight, that player will be worth no honor for a short time.
Are there any safe guards in place to prevent players from killing each other to climb up the ranks? For example, "you let me kill you and I will let you kill me" over and over again? That seems like it would be the fastest way to reach the top ranks of the Honor System.
Killing the same player repeatedly will have diminishing returns, so it will not be worthwhile for either player. In addition to that, any players caught participating in behavior described above will be guilty of exploiting the game and will be dealt with accordingly. The system we have in place can track unusual patterns to help expose this behavior.
What if guilds coordinate with each other to "trade" players to kill so they are not always fighting the same player?
Any guilds caught participating in this activity will also be considered exploiting the game and will be penalized accordingly.
If I gain the 5th rank, and I purchase the Bracers as listed in the chart above, what happens if I drop down to the 4th rank. Will I still be able to wear the bracers?
Characters are able to equip gear obtained from honor rewards based on the highest rank that the character has attained in their lifetime.
How does the Honor System fit in with the Battlegrounds?
In the Battlegrounds players will be fighting primarily against other players which will net honor. There will also be other methods of earning honor in the Battlegrounds besides player-vs-player battles. Battlegrounds are instances geared towards promoting player-vs-player combat, so players who complete objectives in Battlegrounds will receive honor.
How does the PvP system that is being implemented affect the world outside Battlegrounds. In other words, in contested zones will I be able to control graveyards and other key points?
While we are looking to have player-vs-player combat affect the outside world in ways that are interesting and most of all fun to players, this will not be a feature that is included in the initial Honor System or Battleground patches.
Will killing players in the Battlegrounds automatically result in me getting more honor than if I kill someone on the other parts of the realm?
No. However players participating in Battlegrounds can earn honor in other ways besides killing players.
Misc.
Will one class have an advantage over the others? Some classes seem to be better equipped for gaining honor than others; was that taken into consideration?
During our testing we did not come across any one class that had a distinct advantage over the others. Each class has an equal chance of rising through the ranks depending on how it is played. Keep in mind that the number of honorable kills that a player makes does not determine the rate at which ranks are gained, only that a fair kill was made. That should help alleviate some of the fears about certain classes being better than others. The more a player participates in player-vs-player battles, the higher the rank will be.
It seems that some realms have way more Alliance than Horde members. How will this affect the Honor System ?
Contrary to popular belief, the numbers of Horde and Alliance are very similar on player-vs-player realms.
How am I supposed to play the game when every where I go someone is waiting to gank me? The graveyard is nice, but I want to see the rest of the world too!
Players who chose to create characters on a PvP realm are supposed to feel a sense of danger where ever they go, that is why we offer player-vs-player realms!
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